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 Shootin Bricks |
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Posts: 648 (11/22/02 20:33:02) |
As promised (in the chatroom), I'm posting a couple of test pics of fake snow. This is basically a sheet of felt covered with glitter.
This first shot is of the first 2 minifigs I grabbed-  This second is of some space-helmeted minifigs (because i thought it kind of looked like the moon...) 
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Cometgreen |
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Posts: 313 (11/22/02 20:38:59) |
Hmm, not too bad. Of course, it doesn't look real, but then again the only way for it to look real is to use real snow (which sucks cause I live in Hawaii
 ). I think it does look more like a moon landscape. Maybe by using different lights or changing some stuff around in post production, you can change it so the snow is more white and a bit more real looking.If only they made extra small glitter, then it would look great.  Cometgreen "Luke be a Jedi tonight! Just be a jedi tonight! Do it for Yoda and the Ewoks...and all the other puppets! Luke be a jedi tonight!" - Mark Hamill, Simpsons
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halidfw |
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Posts: 1204 (11/22/02 23:35:07) |
i actually think those shots look pretty good!
gets the individual snow crystal reflection look across very well. I forsee problems when animating though... the bits of glitter moving too much (due to gust of wind, slight breeeze or bumped set) might totally ruin the effect. Maybe you could spray the piece of felt with hairspray to hold the glitter in place? Hali ------
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Litervis |
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Posts: 307 (11/23/02 06:01:33) |
The second picture looks pretty good. I'm doing a scene with snow soon, I thought of using isopor (not sure what that is in English - the tiny white plastic ball things) and sprinkling the scene with flour... But the glitter seems like a must-have! Also, for snow scenes you could tweak the colour to be a little more bluish, and if it's supposed to be a day shot, you can over-exposure the picture to give it the snow-blind look.
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zirkusaffe |
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Posts: 375 (11/23/02 06:20:37) |
I think it looks pretty good too. The glitter does add a nice highlight when the light hits it but when it doesn't it makes it look dirty. Maybe you could try something that's white or clear and has some natural reflection to it. Salt, maybe?
The dark reflections might change with a lighter background or a more brightly lit set. I think that if you were to change either of those, you'd be much happier with the way the set looks overall. I'm with Hali, wondering about how to keep it still. Depending on what's underneath it, you could try a grid of spot-gluing (every four inches or so) or maybe similarly pinning it to a heaver piece of cloth beneath (for the more uneven terrain). Straight pins would work and the heads should pretty much disappear in the felt. I hope it turns some wheels, -j |
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Shootin Bricks |
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Posts: 648 (11/23/02 06:53:34) |
I should have mentioned that this felt and glitter sheet is prepacked- it's meant for your Christmas village display (my wife's Christmas village display to be more specific). The glitter is held in place by some very light glue, but the hairspray idea sounds promising- give the glitter extra hold, stiffen up the felt and maybe even give the whole thing a glossy look. I'll have to try that. No- I havn't yet tried animating on it. I will though, I'm gonna make an animated Christmas card set in my wifes village
 Heres another test shot- taken after the houses were in place thus making the felt sheet more stable (these houses are heavy). 
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Litervis |
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Posts: 307 (11/23/02 09:36:37) |
Won't the hair spray blow away the glitter?
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plasticaliban |
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Posts: 61 (11/23/02 10:00:04) |
Hairspray first, then glitter.
(Nice job! I do have to agree that the glitter not catching the light does give the "dirty" appearance but otherwise it looks great! Hobby stores carry clear glitter which is iridescent as well. Possibly an alternative.) PC |
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Cometgreen |
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Posts: 313 (11/23/02 11:37:32) |
Ooh, that new one looks a lot better to me. Maybe cause there's more stuff in the scene, but it just looks more natural.
Now that I look back on the first two, I think they do actually look quite good. They don't seem as dark as they did last night, instead they seem a lot brighter. The second is probably better, though, because of the foreground being blurred. Gives a great sense of depth imo. Cometgreen "Luke be a Jedi tonight! Just be a jedi tonight! Do it for Yoda and the Ewoks...and all the other puppets! Luke be a jedi tonight!" - Mark Hamill, Simpsons
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Posts: 1325 (11/23/02 11:53:08) |
I notice quite a few dark spots in there, that take away the reality. Glittery points lighting up in one frame, but not in the other, may be interpreted as glittering, and as such not a bad thing.
Another problem is, that these are sheets, and as such they look like sheets, not like drifts of snow. I guess I'll throw in my snow solution: custar sugar! This is sugar, so it looks like snow, and is more wet than normal sugar, thus sticking together a bit better. Best of all: it's easy to clean off your LEGOs, as it dissolves in water EDIT: WHOOPS! I got the vowels all wrong. What I meant was white caster sugar. Look here to see what it is called in your language! Picture? Sure... look away if you don't want to know what my next film will be about.  As for animation: if you want to have minifigs walking on this, this is not an easy task. I solved this by creating a layer of clay, and putting a thin layer of sugar on top of it. That way I could press the hollow feet into the clay, thus making them stand up. It also gives cool footprints, and these footprints make it easy to remember where your minifig has to stand in the next frame! Yours coldly, Stefan. ---
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Litervis |
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Posts: 307 (12/01/02 10:05:52) |
*bump*
I just had to bump this topic to show off a little snow-creation, using Snow-spray! I don't know why nobody had this idea before. Anyways, here goes  :  http://www.litervis.tk |
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Brickfilms |
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Posts: 724 (12/05/02 12:08:54) |
IMHO, the thing that makes the felt look like snow is the texture of the felt, not the glitter.
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Patryk Wawer |
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Posts: 379 (12/07/02 03:32:19) |
Snow spray is very good, especialy when it still is wet.
you get a impression like it's real. I had some shots in Nightbreaker, where the figs walked over snow, and I must say that it looked quiet good. |
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Windforce |
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Posts: 273 (12/30/02 15:34:04) |
I saw that part in the Nightbreaker trailer, I didn't really like the snow part, because the snow looked a little bit like cotton. I think wandrer's snow was better in A Christmas Carol.
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Posts: 379 (12/30/02 15:46:51) |
Hmmm........
I've used wet snow spray. It was a bit to wet and didn't really look realistic. But in overall it was nice, that's what I think. Windforce can you do it better, if yes tell me how? |
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WeirdEars |
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Posts: 68 (03/28/03 13:12:10) |
Hey! Isn't that Dave from Clocktower? Oh, great effects...
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